Posts Tagged ‘bathroom remodel’

when you bite off more than you can chew…

Thursday, February 17th, 2011

…why not take another bite?

If you’ve been with me up till now, you know that I’ve been blindly remodeling my half bath. I dove right in, with the recklessness of an acid tripper believing she can fly. So far, it’s been gutted and plumbed and the “Two T’s” are waiting for me: Tile and Toilet. I finally mustered up the balls to go buy all the drywall equipment, even though something as simple as choosing screws put the fear of god into me. I even had to trick Scott with promises of hoagies, to get him to drive the rented van that Home Depot provides.

Here is the drywall and the cement board for the tiled wall. Like immigrants fresh off the boat, they needed time to acclimate to their new home. They sat here for 3 days absorbing the room’s temperature.

Just as I was getting ready with that first sheet, something started nagging at me. The floor. Or rather, three floors. Why are there three types of flooring within 6 feet of each other, pray tell? Yes, good people, it doesn’t make any sense to me either.

So what did I do? That’s right. I put off the drywall some more. I went to town on that square tile. Of all the ways I tried to pop it off, I found the easiest thing to do was simply smash it. Like it did me wrong. Which it did. Cuz it looked at me funny.

In about an hour, it looked like the sky fell in.

I swept up the shards, and now had my blank canvas. I’m going to simply extend the blonde wood flooring into the hall, which will add a few bucks to my floor cost.

There was a lot of debris in all the nooks and crannies. I rolled on over to Home Depot to rent a Shop-Vac, the mother of all vacuums.

The lady manning the counter told me none were available, so I am now the proud owner of a $50 model. Is this how they get you to buy stuff? It took me an embarrassingly long time to assemble the thing.

It’s one powerful monkey! It almost pulled the fillings out of my teeth. Why doesn’t everyone use these instead of the regular ol’ vacuums for their house?

Ok, now I can do the drywall. Or can I? What about this dangling electrical box?

I’ve been meaning to change it into a GFCI outlet. Back to Home Depot I went. If you’re paying close attention, you’ll see that so far, I spent half the day on vacuuming and shopping at Home Depot. Oh, hours, where do you go!

It was also a mystery as to how to deal with a dangling box (sounds like slang for….something). Looks like a crash course in electric wiring is about to commence. I purchased another box that looked like it could get screwed to the side of the stud. But, ugh, wrong size. The wood behind it displaced it forward too much.

Another trip to Home Depot seemed as appealing as eating rotten eggs. It was time to “Tim Gunn” it and make it work.

I screwed the back into the wood behind it, all the while wondering why the original person didn’t do that. I have since learned that this style of electrical box is only used when there is no open wall, and it can be slid right into a drywall hole.

Between this video, and the instructions that came with the outlets, I was easily able to install both the GFCI outlet, and the on/off switch. I only had 3 wires to work with because this was the last stop of the power line, but if you have more than 4 wires, you may want to watch this video.

I was pretty impressed with mah bad self.

Now, NOW, I was ready for that drywall. If you’ve been smelling procrastination, you’d be right.

I should preface this by saying I’ve been reading up on how to do this during my work commute. I read 2 books on the subject.

1. Drywall: Professional Techniques for Great Results

and

2. Complete Drywall (Stanley Complete)


The first one was so detailed, and comprehensive, it was like reading a drywall tell-all. The second was a reinforcement of all I had learned, and showed some additional pics of the how-to’s. I did feel well armed with the right info to get the job done right. Now all I needed was the benefit of experience.

First, a quick check to see if the studs are all lined up. They all appear to be flush against the level.

I shimmied the first piece of drywall toward the bathroom. I angled and pushed, and the thing would not fit through the door. I called in my backup, aka Scott, and he confirmed that I’m not a total spacial dolt — it truly wouldn’t fit.

Mo-fo! I specifically gutted the place to avoid seams, and now I was going to have seams up the wazoo. Such is life.

Cutting was easy. I measured, I scored.

I snapped it against my knee, and cut the other side free.

Then I propped it up against the studs, and with gritted teeth, drove the first screw through.

According to the experts, it’s important for the screws to stop just below the surface of the drywall, making just a dimple, without actually breaking the surface paper, otherwise the screw may be weak and “pop” later on. Um, some areas got away from me, especially around the corners.

When that happens, the right thing to do is get another screw in, a couple of inches away.

After a few hit-and-miss screws, I had my first piece of drywall up! Yay me!

Now that I’m looking at it, I’m thinking I could add a few more screws.

Anyway, I was gearing up to start the awful cement board installation on the other side of the wall. I say awful because those bastards are heavy. That’s probably why they come in small pieces. I popped open the box of special screws designed just for that purpose, and only then noticed they required different bits. The screw on the left is the square-bit-loving cement board screw.

I couldn’t bear another trip to Home Depot today, so time to take a nap.

Do you guys ever feel like utter brain mush when doing these sorts of projects? Do you just plow through anyway? Learn everything you can about it beforehand?

And the bathroom beat goes on

Monday, January 10th, 2011

I swear, I’m the slowest demolitioner on the planet. This is really moving along at turtle speeds. Kudos to all of you who knock this out in a 12-hour marathon session. I, on the other hand, start to exhaust after about three. Especially when crouching for the better part of it.

Case in point, the tile floors. Why, oh why, does the pattern have to be a mess of Chicklets? It gave way only one piece at a time.

After 20 minutes:

I spent another 15 minutes trying to chip the marble threshold. It was quite the stubborn slab. I used every ounce of girl brawn I had, to no avail. Little did I know, this was a fool’s errand.

You see, it was BELOW THE SURFACE OF THE TILE! Duh! Something that only became obvious once I cleared away the offending squares.

After shuffling around the floor for a while, I felt literally bent out of shape, and took a “break” by moving on to the drywall. First, I had to yank off the trim around the window and door. I hammered in the pry bar until the nails came loose.

The trim popped right off.

Relief. It’s working.

Only, whoops, I did a smidge of damage to the wood. I hope that’s not an issue. Anyone, chime in if you think it is.

When the trim was no longer trimming, I beat the crap out of the drywall, making a line of holes around a section.

Then I riiiiiiipped it out. Hmmm, it’s not so tough.

Soon I got into the groove, and it started going faster.

The nails in the framing went next.

Speaking of nails, I was surprised to see them. I’ve been edumacatin’ myself on drywall installation and everyone seems to use drywall screws nowadays, citing that they’re much stronger and less likely to pop out. Ah, the age of progress. I was also surprised to see fire resistant gypsum being used along the two insulated walls lining the exterior. Is this code? Anyone?

As I worked, yet more questions kept cropping up. How do you know if you need to replace the insulation? This one must be from 1971. I really hope someone out there reading has some insight on this. Please share your hard-won knowledge.

Here’s some mess for your enjoyment. I had to stop and bag it up every once in a while, or risk burying myself alive.

When I got to the ceiling, I had a head-scratching moment. You might think this is from the soot crumbles littering my hair, and you’d be right, but also from the question at hand. I couldn’t just keep hammering out the drywall near the ceiling, or I’d damage the ceiling. And I was trying to preserve it because the thought of re-drywalling the ceiling by myself made me want to forever disappear into some remote, one-horse, Mexican town.

I hope I handled this right. I scored the ceiling tape, and pried out the drywall pieces. Anyone? Did I do harm?

So I’m pretty much there. All that’s left is pulling out the rest of the nails and a thorough sweep up.

Though I’m not near that step yet, I also have to figure out how to prep the floor for my hardwood installation. Right now, it’s got paper backing and adhesive all stuck to it.

If you want all the gritty details, here’s bathroom demolition part 1, and bathroom demolition part 2.

the wide world of bathroom fixtures

Wednesday, December 29th, 2010

I’ve modified the old mood board a little for 2 reasons.

1. Having 2 pendant lights and an overhead light was going to add too many extra dollars to the project, with buying the extra fixtures and rewiring to accommodate them. And the sink area is so much smaller than I thought, that it didn’t even make sense to have pendants on either side. In such a small space, one overhead light is plenty. If I need something more for guests, they will get candles. Who doesn’t like a little romance with their tinkle? Maybe a kooky overhead fixture would inject some pizazz.

2. The sink area is so much smaller than I thought, a mere 20″ wide, I had to find a sink that fit.

When you don’t know what you’re doing, it’s so easy to let weeks go by without making any remodeling decisions. It’s paralysis, brought on by fear of screwing something up. So, as usual, I had to talk myself out of it just to move a tiny bit forward.

As far as demolition, I had to keep reminding myself that destruction is the goal, and there was almost no way I could mess that up. Soon the walls were tile-less.

Nice holes.

Next I pulled off the medicine cabinet. Just unscrewed the screws on the inside.

And pried that sucker out.

My efforts were rewarded with a glimpse of the old wallpaper that must have once covered these walls! Oh, so deliciously seventies! Does anyone know why there would be a patch glued behind a medicine cabinet?

Then I screwed off the door.

Came right out.

Unfortunately, the garage floor now looks like this.

I called the town, and mercifully, they said they take big garbage once a week.

Right now I am trying to buy a toilet, a sink, and choose tile. Every free block of time I’ve had has been used to surf around the web in search of the perfect piece, or to take a trip to a bathroom showroom to poke at them in person. I must have seen thousands of toilets and yes, they do eventually start to blur together. Honestly, what is the dang difference!? And how long could anyone spend in a half bath admiring the lines of a toilet? If you know how to use a bathroom, you tend to be out in a few minutes.

One thing I noticed is that toilets and sinks look much nicer in person than they do on the web, and that they are almost always full price at the store, whereas they’re like 40% less on the internet. So that’s a no-brainer. In choosing mine, price, of course was a factor, which eliminated many models.

I prefer the modern look, and as much as it amuses me to say it, I’ve always coveted a one-piece toilet. To think, even if there are toilet “misses”, nothing can get trapped in that crevice under the tank. A cleaner’s dream!

Here’s what I’ve narrowed it down to:


Porcher One Piece
at $410, but is on sale with a 7% discount right now


Porcher Two-Piece
at $292, a similar look to the above, but obviously a little cheaper, being a two-piece, and also 7% off


Toto Ultramax
, $370, one-piece, yay!

And for good measure, American Standard White Cadet at $265, because it’s the cheapest, yet my least favorite bowl (did I just say that!?)

And it’s news to me that I have to think about add-ons, like toilet seats, exposed pipes, and flush valve. Some models come with, and some don’t. And I now have to lay awake at night thinking about how deep into the room the toilet juts. Sigh.

As for the sink, once I measured the area and found it to be only 20″ wide, that eliminated a lot of options. Some sinks were exactly 20″ wide, but I didn’t want anything butting right up against the wall. I hate when gunk falls in the cracks and there’s no way to clean it.

This Neo-Metro vanity almost made me faint with it’s gorgeousness, but when I heard it was 3 grand, I really almost did faint. If you’ve seen a knock-off, let me know!

But I think I will settle for this Porcher guy. It’s small, modern looking, and I can live with its $330 price tag.

Onward with some tile selection.

toilet disconnect and no vanity

Friday, December 24th, 2010

How did this happen? Everyone else is opening presents and eating Christmas ham and I’m knee deep in rust stains and cracked tile. But the demo had to start some time. I suppose I can always fa-la-la while chipping away at the mess.

ain’t progress grand?

What better place to start than the toilet? My gift to myself: eu de toilette. Before starting, I surfed around for some how-to videos on disconnecting.

How to Cut Off and Remove the Toilet Water Supply

How to Take Off an Old Toilet

How To Replace a Toilet (Home Depot)

DIY Toilet Removal

Why is it that all demo videos show the plumber working on a brand new toilet, like it was just put in yesterday? Nothing about it is gross, mysteriously colored, or irreparably deteriorated from 40 years of use.

That wasn’t my reality. Oh, no. I’m going to tell it like it is, stank and all. I even shrunk down some of the photos, so you don’t lose your lunch. All in all it wasn’t difficult, and if you attempt this, just be sure to have some life-saving rubber gloves nearby.

First thing was to shut the water supply, and all I had to do was twist. Apparently, the saying goes “Righty tighty, lefty loosey” to let you know which way to turn the knob. Immediately out of the gate, I ran into my first glitch. I was rightying my brains out but the thing wouldn’t budge. It was too rusted over. Utter exhasperation.

stubborn water supply

I contemplated throwing in the towel on the whole operation and hiring someone else to deal with it, because if I was having a problem already, there was no telling what else I’d have to contend with. But I talked myself down. I couldn’t let every little problem stop me or this would be a long and painful slog. All I had to do was think for a second, and figure it out.

The old wrench, which hasn’t seen the light of day in years, made its way out of the tool box. And of course it worked. The rest was smooth, if rather disgusting, sailing.

I removed the cover and flushed. Can anyone tell me what breed of mushrooms are growing against the wall?

Sponged out the excess water.

Sweet jesus, what is all that!?

After I shook off the horror, I poured a bucket of water into the toilet to drain as much water as possible.

And unscrewed the tank from the water supply.

Next, I twisted off the screws bolting the toilet to the floor. The left side gave way with a little muscle. How can such a small screw collect so much gunk and rust?

The right side wasn’t having it. The saw was called into action. Ew. Just, ew.

After I broke a light sweat, and 15 minutes of back and forth, success.

There was no calk anywhere on the base, so I went straight to rocking it back and forth to break the wax seal. It came up right away. Scott made an appearance to help me haul it into the garage.

They say there’s supposed to be a wax ring that should get scraped off the flange at this point, but there was no sign of one. The bacteria must have eaten it over the years. I used a plastic bag to pull off as much as I could stomach.

And stuffed an old t-shirt into the pipe to keep sewer gases from wafting back at me.

That part’s done.

Next, the vanity. Again those pesky water supply valves needed some convincing. Righty tighty, dammit, on both the hot and cold.

It was hard to reach the bolts that connect to the faucet, and I found myself on my back in true plumber fashion, while murky water dripped on my forehead. Got ‘em.

When the big curly pipe wouldn’t twist off, I had to call it quits for the day. None of my tools would get a grip on it. Time for a trip to Home Depot for a new pipe wrench with a big enough maw. Got it.

Again, I thought the vanity top would be tough to take apart, but the sink came right up. It should have been attached with some screws from below, but they were completely loose.

What a surprise — the side revealed that the vanity was once a pink marble and has since been painted. I’d call these finds the joys of demolition. Into the garage.

I picked up the rest, like a small child, and also banished it into the garage. That’s that.

The remaining bit of energy I had went toward chiseling away some tile. A few wacks on a mason’s chisel with a regular ol’ hammer did the trick. After accidentally wacking my hand a few times, the work gloves came on.

Drywall doesn’t stand a chance. The drywall paper comes off with the tile.

After a few minutes of metal banging on metal, I noticed my ears ringing like I’d just come out of a Def Leopard concert. These ear plugs were imperative.

It wasn’t long before all the dust and tile chips started flying around. No one wants to be breathing that stuff or losing an eye so I got my Darth Vader on with a dust mask and safety goggles.

A little while later my shoulder started aching, and I had to call it a day. Two walls were well under way.

I’d say the toilet, sink and this portion of tile took me about 2.5 hours. It could have gone faster but my novice hesitation slowed me down. And that’s ok. I’d rather get it right the first time. It really wasn’t hard work.

I hope you enjoyed my Christmas-themed toilet post (heh) and I do wish you and your families a fantastic holiday, whatever you may be doing.

getting down to bathroom business

Tuesday, November 30th, 2010

Ok. Enough screwing around. We’ve lived here almost 3 months, and it’s time to get to the REAL projects.

see ya, pink powder room!

We’ve been waiting to get our security deposit check back from the last rental, so we could fund our next improvement, and it just got here. Not a minute too soon.

For me, the worst parts about this house, the things that makes me feel like I’m in a roadside motel, are the bathrooms. They have got to go first. There are 3 — one powder room on the ground floor, one half bath with only a shower, and one full bath with a tub on the second floor. Call me crazy, but I’m starting with the powder room.

sink and toilet on one side, wall on the other

Why start with the least used room in the house? I consider it a test run. Since it only has a sink and toilet and a small amount of surface area, I can try my hand at some skill-building before graduating to the more advanced projects. And I can take my time because if it’s out of order for a while, there are 2 big, ugly bathrooms at our disposal.

rusted sink

While I waited for the check in the mail, I got some edumacation on bathrooms, and read some preliminary books on the subject.

1. Complete Baths (Stanley Complete)

2. Bathroom Remodeling for Dummies

3. Black & Decker The Complete Guide to Dream Bathrooms: Design Yourself & Save – Features New Products & Materials – Step-by-Step Instructions (Black & Decker Complete Guide)

I’ve now got the gist of what needs to be done. First, the plan. Stay tuned…